1 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:12,060 There are three main ways that people and groups can get data from governments and organisations. 2 00:00:12,060 --> 00:00:17,480 One of them is governments releasing them themselves, either through FOIA requests or open data initiatives. 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:25,540 Which is great and people have done a lot of great work around, but the government can also choose what to release and spin it and all of that. 4 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:29,200 So that's important, but in some ways it's the weakest way. Then there's leaking documents. 5 00:00:29,220 --> 00:00:34,200 So whistleblowers releasing documents giving them to journalists and them being released that way. 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:42,280 And the third way is, just taking advantage of the data that people and institutions leak accidentally themselves. 7 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:46,420 The powerful thing about that is that, people don't explicitly decide to release it. 8 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Not even a whistleblower explicitly decides to release this information. 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,300 You can get most personal data publicly if people post about it freely enough online. 10 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:58,920 Then I started to realise how many other open data sources were just available to everyone 11 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,940 freely online and how much secret information was in them. It's up to people to collect and make sense of it on their own. 12 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:11,700 It doesn't rely on any other entity, except for the people who are accidentally releasing it, which will always continue to happen in some fashion. 13 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:18,800 I think that's what makes it particularly powerful, it's completely independent of anything else and it's not something that can be shut down. 14 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,840 It's not something that can be controlled or shut down, because when thousands of people are posting things, 15 00:01:23,860 --> 00:01:29,360 about the secret programmes they're working for online, short of shutting down the sites that are working on, 16 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,400 where those are released, and even then it would be cached to other websites. 17 00:01:32,780 --> 00:01:36,880 They're not going to be able to get that information off the internet overnight. People can take it down over time. 18 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,320 You can have policies about what people can post but it takes time it's not something that you can easily shut down or control. 19 00:01:43,220 --> 00:01:49,360 I think that all the data that people are making publicly available definitely provides a huge opportunity that we haven't had before 20 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:53,140 to understand the institutions around us and to create our own accountability mechanisms. 21 00:01:53,140 --> 00:01:57,980 We don't need to rely on institutions or go and talk to people and say, "We need this data". 22 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,840 We can say "Oh, we can go find this data ourselves". And have that accountability mechanism ourselves. 23 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,640 So, I think that yes, there's some amount of rethinking of activism that we should do to try to build sousveillance states 24 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:13,340 and try to build in our own accountability mechanisms based on all the data that's publicly available.